BOP
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Not since... (checks notes) ...Trump said we had no business being entangled in the Middle East.
Ukraine / Russia - Actions and Reactions
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BOP
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Not really. It's more like Mexico sending troops into Texas. The area is still part of Ukraine.
You forgot the link.
My legendary humanitarian impulses are kicking in....I feel the need to help.
glhs837
Power with Control
Sorry, but the only way in which those areas have broken away is that Russia has armed a bunch of folks who have been fighting to secede, even though they are the minority in those areas. You secede at the ballot box, not the ammo box.
You really believe that? You really think that if we walked away, there would be rainbows and puppies for all of the EU? You really think the Russians, or more precisely Putin and his cadre of Cold War relics would welcome Germany to the fold?
Free trade zones run by oligarchs and communists? Come'on man, you cant really believe that. Whats next, helping the CCP reunite the breakway republic of Taiwan?
Frankly Scarlett I Don't Give A Damn, What the EU Does .... Ukraine is NOT A US Problem
glhs837
Power with Control
So out of NATO we go? Note I was referring to the Germany stuff. If you really think us disengaging in Europe is a good idea, we'll need to disagree. We've played this hand twice before.
Economics - excerpt follows
Now, if your goal is the same as antifa and the democratic party, i.e., complete destruction of the US economy, then by all means leave the EU to survive on their own. Neville Chamberlain approves.
- The EU-US trade and investment relationship remains strong despite the economic challenges related to the Covid-19 pandemic. In 2020, EU companies exported goods worth €353 billion, almost €2 billion more than in 2018. More than 164,000 EU companies export to the US, almost 93,000 of which are SMEs.
- Total US investment in the EU is three times higher than in all of Asia.
- EU investment in the US is around eight times the amount of EU investment in India and China together.
- EU and US investments are the real driver of the transatlantic relationship, contributing to growth and jobs on both sides of the Atlantic. A third of this transatlantic trade comprises intra-company transfers.
- The transatlantic relationship defines the shape of the overall global economy. For most countries, either the EU or the US is the largest trade and investment partner.
- Together, the EU and the US economies account for about half of world GDP and for nearly a third of world trade flows.
Now, if your goal is the same as antifa and the democratic party, i.e., complete destruction of the US economy, then by all means leave the EU to survive on their own. Neville Chamberlain approves.
Fox News is reporting that Ukrainian institutions are currently under major cyber-attack from Russia.
And a full invasion within 48 hours.
A thought popped into my head. If the Russians are cyber-attacking Ukraine, is there anything the US/NATO can do to thwart the Russians.
Now'd be a good time for a healthy dose of Stuxnet.
Long-Range Missiles Launched From Russia, Aircraft En Route To Carry Out Strikes
Russia has reportedly started to launch long-range missiles toward Ukraine and has aircraft en route to carry out additional strikes during the initial hours of the early morning full-scale invasion into Ukraine.
“Ukrainian officials said an initial wave of strikes targeted military installations, airfields and government facilities across the country, as well as border force installations. Ukraine’s border service said its troops came under attack all along the country’s frontiers with Russia and Belarus,” The Wall Street Journal reported. “Kyiv didn’t immediately offer any official estimate of casualties. But a senior Ukrainian official said he believed hundreds of Ukrainian soldiers had died in Russian airstrikes and missile attacks that began at 5 a.m. local time.”
Asked if He Underestimated Putin, Biden Stares Vacantly and Picks His Teeth
It’s one of the most awkward twenty seconds ever captured on video in a disastrous administration that lurches from one awkward moment to another: when asked “Do you think you may have underestimated Putin?,” Old Joe Biden first continued to stare in the general direction of the question, a slight smirk on his face, expression absolutely unchanged from what it had been before the question was asked. A few seconds later he turned his head to face the camera and, after a few more seconds, grinned sardonically. A few seconds later, he began picking his teeth with his thumbnail, and then grins a bit vacantly before the video mercifully runs out. Amid all the wrong choices, erroneous policies, abject failures, and stupid missteps of this disastrous administration, it was a trivial moment, but it was a telling one.
Biden has more than once made it clear that he isn’t the person in charge. On Dec. 21, 2021, he told a press conference: “I’m not supposed to be having this press conference right now.” Why not? Who was telling him not to? No one in the sycophantic Leftist establishment media seemed to think it newsworthy to ask the president of the United States who was telling him what he was supposed to be and not supposed to be doing, and so we can only guess.
Nor was that the first time that Biden had hinted that he was just a puppet in the Oval Office. In June 2021 at the G7 Summit, Biden said: “I’m sorry, I’m going to get in trouble with staff if I don’t do this the right way.” At a press conference in Nov. 2021, the Oval Office puppet gave the impression that he was not supposed to take too many questions: “I can take…I’m going to get in real trouble … this is the last question I’m taking.” On Sept. 8, 2021, Biden announced to a puzzled world, “I‘m supposed to stop and walk out of the room.” On Aug. 30, 2021, he told a reporter, “I’m not supposed to take any questions, but go ahead,” but when the question turned out to involve his catastrophic mishandling of the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan, he said: “I’m not gonna answer Afghanistan now,” and walked away.